I recent sold my Fujifilm X-H1 camera and bought the Fujifilm X-S10 which comes with a flip out screen, and I was surprised how useless the screen is for us photographers.
Flip out screens have been a growing trend in the camera industry for some years now, but why get rid of the perfectly good flip screen and replace it with a flip out screen? How I see it most people watch camera reviews on Youtube, and those Youtubers really push camera producers to make them a camera with a flip out screen. They need it so they can record video of them self, monitoring the video without an external monitor. You often hear them mentioning “not having a flip out screen” as a negative for cameras. It’s the Tony Northrup types that do camera reviews not because they love the craft of photography but because it’s become a living for them. Camera producers follow what the the most popular reviewers say, and they want a flip out screen.
So why does the flip out screen suck?
Aligning the shot is hard
Looking through the EVF or though a normal flip screen it’s easy to align your photos and frame your subject. But with a flip out screen you look at a screen slightly to the side of the direction your camera is looking. To make it worse the flip out screen is mostly not straight for you to look at, and you often miss align the horizon making it uneven and meaning you have to crop later.
The neck strap gets in the way
You have your camera on neck straps like most photographers, you hold out your camera, flip out the flip out screen, but the neck straps is in the way. You try to lift your head or move the camera to get a clear view of the screen but it’s hard. The strap gets in the way most of the time, and it’s a big downside.
Not stealthy
I often use the flip screen for shooting more stealthy on the street, but with the flip out screen hanging of to the side, you are more obvious than with a normal flip screen.
Slower and more difficult to fold out
You are out shooting photos and suddenly you see a subject coming towards you. You want to shoot it without the subject noticing you so you don’t use your EVF. You flip the screen around, turn it out to the left, adjust the angle, but the subject have now passed you.
Compare that to a traditional flip screen, it’s only one movement. Often I even have the flip screen a little bit flipped down already ready making it even faster, which you can’t do with a flip out screen.
Final words
After using the Fujifilm X-S10 for a month I stopped using the flip out screen, and that’s a big downside for me since I mostly shoot with the flip screen out.
To make it all even worse I tried using the X-S10 for selfies and vlogging, and it wasn’t even that good for that. I prefer using a normal flip screen camera with a UURig R031 (a selfie mirror you put in the hot shoe of your camera). The UURig R031 make it look like you are looking into the lens, the flip out screen makes you look like you are looking to the side of the camera.
Am I gonna sell the Fujifilm X-S10 again? It does really bothers me, but I also didn’t like the Fujifilm X-H1 for the big bulky design (I’m thinking of other Fujifilm IBIS cameras with a flip screen here). But as soon as Fujifilm releases another camera with a flip screen and not flip out screen, and with IBIS, I will get rid of the X-S10.
Every time I read about a new camera on DPReview, the comments are always full of:
* Not enough buttons
* No flippy screen
* No IBIS
* It’s not full frame
It all reminds me of an episode of the Simpsons where Homer got involved in designing a car that had every feature he could think of and the end result was a horrible abomination.
My first FujiFilm X camera was an X-E1 and I’ve had a number of others since. When I was looking to upgrade this time, I knew that all of the current FujiFilm X lineup had an up to date sensor and processor so it was a matter of what fit me.
I made a list of what functions I needed to get at quickly and worked out how many customisations I’d need. The X-E4 was being criticised in reviews for being too minimal with not enough buttons, but I worked out that it’d be enough for me, so I got one. It took me a day out to work out which functions I put where and get used to that.
I hope we don’t get more everything and the kitchen sink cameras though. I like small and simple.
I’ve never thought that I need IBIS that badly – I tend to have 3 different Auto-ISO setups with minimum shutter speeds set for a variety of shooting types – but I probably use a bit higher ISO as a result!
I tend to agree your opinion about the flip out screen.
Have “old-style” flip screen on D850, Z6 and Fuji X-H1.
Good to use down and above…
Hmm what about using a L-bracket and a flip out screen and verticals?
The X-H1, X-T3, etc can flip out vertically also like this: https://mirrorlesscomparison.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/xt3-screen.jpg
Yep, useful in portrait mode shot.. Nikon have that not.
But for F-Mount i have macro and Tilt/Shift lenses…So i use both.
Hi,
I do understand your point. However, there is some reasons to like that flip-screen. I see 2 for me :
1- I am tall and my knees hurt time to time : I can control low-angles shots in portrait mode, especially usefull to picture my young child when I am standing;
2- I am more focus on composition than in results when the screen is hidden. And if I had to check the pictures I took, I use the EVF using a front button I did assign for that purpose. So, my camera (X-T4) is always at eye-level, in the axis of my subject and I feel less distracted.
“Often what displeases us makes us forget what pleases us” (Victor Cherbuliez)
I encourage everyone to be positive on this one.
Cheers.
Hmm but I’m talking about the flip out screen, not the flip screen. The flip screen is great!